Hi...Again...

I've made some pretty shitty decisions in my life. Some really fucking dreadful ones. One of them, was what I did around 2 months ago.

At the time, I felt betrayed, I felt screwed over, but I've seen past that now. I understand that I wasn't here like I should have been, but it was out of my control. When I was frustrated with what was going on, I saw red and acted out of pure stupidity. And for that, I apologise.

Now, you're probably wondering: What the fuck are you doing back here?

I want to mend those bridges I pretty much destroyed. I made a complete dick of myself, and I realise now that I actually really enjoyed playing Xbox with you guys! It was a fun time, and I regret what happened.

I'm coming back from University for Christmas Break, which lasts around a month. I would love nothing more than to jump Online for the first time on 2k14 with you guys, move on from what happened and my stupidity, and for you guys to absolutely destroy me for once.

P.S: I understand that you all might hate me, but honestly, I wouldn't come back if I didn't feel regret. I want no power, I don't want to make decisions, I just want to be a regular (albeit, part time throughout the year) member. Wrestle fun matches, compete on RAW and SD!, maybe do a few promos if I have the time.
-If the decision is to ban me, I understand. Leave me unbanned for the time being so I can see you responses though!

Yours...faithfully? (I've never really understood these endings, so i'll leave it as that)
PunisherLH.

What you did was stupid but I can somewhat understand how you felt. I find it cool that you're back with a sincere apology and I accept it. I don't know about the others but I'd like to see you back around here, just realize that you almost ruined the site at one point which would of ruined all of this.

I'm willing to look past that and accept you back here in WCF. But at the end of the day, it isn't my decision.

I know I nearly destroyed this, but at the time I wasn't active and that was beyond my control. I fucked up, I really did. Because now I realise how much I miss being part of such an amazing community! Even more so, being part of an e-fed in general.

Anyway, thank you for accepting the apology. It's genuine, I wouldn't say it if I didn't mean it.

I really want to just have fun here with you guys. Have some cool Promos, fun matches, and all in all, a good time.

I was going to PM this to you, but I figured it'd be best for the world to see.

I don't think you know me very well   I understand why you did it. You felt like you were being tossed out of a place you've helped come so far and helped to build in the short little while we'd been here. That's completely understandable as it was made to seem that way. What you did however, I do not agree with. If a place you helped keep going strong suddenly tossed you out, you'd still be remembered in the light of how you how you helped. That's like saying you helped Bill Gates build Microsoft and then he decided he didn't need all the help at the moment, gave you a notice (and you knew you could return when the help was needed at that), and yet you burned down his entire office, even though your name was marked beside 'People Who Helped Make This What It Is'. Again, while I do not agree with it and think you went completely overboard, I do understand why.

Now, to put it in the terms that Dashing was supposed to have put it in: It was not a permanent thing and we weren't kicking you from the fed. We were simply dropping the red tag from your name because at the time, you were too busy to fulfill your admin duties. When you could come back full time again, we'd restore them to you. Now, I imagine if that had been said, in that exact context, you wouldn't have gone completely batshit insane. 

With that said, I was asked in the chat a day or so ago what I would do and how I would react if you ever returned, and I promptly said I'd let you back in, just not near the admin/mod stuff for a long while. You were a hell of a member and helped drag this place along when it was crashing and without your help when the whole WWF/WCW thing failed, we may never have been whole again and may have never gotten this far. Hell, without Christopher Daniels, Miz wouldn't have had such an amazing heel turn and the Bald Bears wouldn't have been a thing. 

So, yes. I welcome you back to WCFLeague  

i wish i could get a history lesson here

MercilessEarth wrote:

i wish i could get a history lesson here

Probably better if you didn't. This is all past drama and we were thankfully not a part of. I had my fair share of online drama and bullshit in other communities. The less I know the better. But that's just my feelings. Heh.

WHAT THE HELL IS CHRISTOPHER DANIELS DOING IN THE IMPACT ZONE?!?!?!?!

Glad to have you back.

i know nothing of what took place , im not an admin . i only saw the after math , really sucked you did that bro. but iv made mistakes , you were never mean or wierd to me and i always enjoyed our matches (bray wyatt vs Daniels in an epic 40 min match ) so who am i to stand in the way of anything

Man oh man. 

You broke my heart, Punisher. You broke it into a million little pieces. Pieces that I'm still collecting to this very day.

I honestly don't know how I feel about this. Not too good to say the least. I mean, sure you might have been angry, though I don't why. Like Twysted said it was only temporary and I made that fairly clear. But whatever. If everyone else thinks you should get a second chance then why not? I'm not going to delete the site over it or anything (you'll never hear the end of these jokes from me by the way.) 

Welcome back, man. When I return from my little break I'll make sure to smack you around a bit in the game. Also, if you ever mention one word of our five minute TLC match to me ever again you'll be banned for life.

All these people above me who can forgive you just like that and welcome you back with open arms, I respect that. You get people like Twysted who seem to know exactly how you felt and can move past what you did and you get people like Dashing who don't quite know how to react to this. Then you get me who knows exactly how I feel about this and let me just say this, if my vote counts for shit around here then you'd be gone faster than we can say "psycho".

I remember you saying you never wanted to be looked upon like Vince was, a power hungry dictator, but to me you've gone far beyond that point. Honestly I'd rather have Vince come back and try to claim the site that see you lurking around again. I remember back when we were talking about creating a new site since the old one was dying, it was only plans but then you go and "accidentally" break the old one anyway, forcing us to move. I was one of the majority who laughed it off saying "well, obviously he never meant it" but there were a select few who think otherwise.

I'll admit, I had absolutely no resentment towards you back when you were an admin in this place. I was for you having your admin powers remover when you were inactive and would swing by every week or so just to comment on something being discussed in the admin section but that was all you did. I respected you for doing everything you did for this place but then you go and ruin your reputation entirely. Then there was the aftermath of what you did which I was smack bang in the middle of but I'm not going to get into that. Just know that I blame it solely on you. Like some of the others, I do understand why you did it, I just don't think it justifies your actions. See, because I don't see it as someone who was angry and frustrated I see it as someone who is an absolute psychopath.

So that's what you are to me, a psycho. I really do hope my vote is taken into consideration because it's a definite no. Goodbye.

Now, I know that my thoughts and decisions aren't as important as others, but I just wanted to share them with you.

I know that I have done some pretty bad things, that made you angry or irritated, and you did the same to me as well. But, I just want it shoved to the side, and want a fresh start tbh. I don't know how you feel about me, but, I still like you. I still want to be your friend. Just wanted to get it out there <3

Also, I know what happened just before you left/booted out, whatever. But I didn't expect you to be gone for quite a long time. I thought you would've done a Dashing and came back in a week. The fed didn't feel the same when you left tbh, and when more and more people were leaving, it just became difficult.

I don't know if you'll ever get your mod powers back, and IF it happens again, then I'll be worried. But if you want to come back as a average member, just playing for fun, then, that's okay in my book (Even though it doesn't matter </3)

But with old faces back, it might change the mood of the fed around here (As well as me, Cobros, Dashing and Alveuss the only guys with mics). So, I would like it if you came back, and I'm willing to start fresh!

Silent Saw <3

Alveuss KoL wrote:

All these people above me who can forgive you just like that and welcome you back with open arms, I respect that. You get people like Twysted who seem to know exactly how you felt and can move past what you did and you get people like Dashing who don't quite know how to react to this. Then you get me who knows exactly how I feel about this and let me just say this, if my vote counts for shit around here then you'd be gone faster than we can say "psycho".

I remember you saying you never wanted to be looked upon like Vince was, a power hungry dictator, but to me you've gone far beyond that point. Honestly I'd rather have Vince come back and try to claim the site that see you lurking around again. I remember back when we were talking about creating a new site since the old one was dying, it was only plans but then you go and "accidentally" break the old one anyway, forcing us to move. I was one of the majority who laughed it off saying "well, obviously he never meant it" but there were a select few who think otherwise.

I'll admit, I had absolutely no resentment towards you back when you were an admin in this place. I was for you having your admin powers remover when you were inactive and would swing by every week or so just to comment on something being discussed in the admin section but that was all you did. I respected you for doing everything you did for this place but then you go and ruin your reputation entirely. Then there was the aftermath of what you did which I was smack bang in the middle of but I'm not going to get into that. Just know that I blame it solely on you. Like some of the others, I do understand why you did it, I just don't think it justifies your actions. See, because I don't see it as someone who was angry and frustrated I see it as someone who is an absolute psychopath.

So that's what you are to me, a psycho. I really do hope my vote is taken into consideration because it's a definite no. Goodbye.

Hi Alveuss,

I knew you'd be a tricky one to convince. From the majority of the time I have known you, I feel as if I kind of know what you're like and I knew for a fact you wouldn't like me back here. I'd just like to explain myself to you:

Firstly, Dash, Twysted and Dashing (to an extent) are willing to give me a 2nd chance here. 2nd Chances don't come often, and i'm extremely grateful for it. I spent most of my time here: May until...September? October maybe? That's 5 or 6 months of trying to fulfill Vince's shoes. I had NEVER run a Fed League before. I was doing it for so long, I lost sight of what it was like to be a normal member here. That's all i'm asking for here, not to return to the staff team, not to become Admin again, but to simply play matches with you guys and write Promos. It's a lot of pressure being in that position.

The whole WWFLeague.com thing was a legit accident, I have no reason to lie about that? If I wanted us to move site, I would have done it straight after Vince...left? I don't know how to word it. I was attempting to make a Hall Of Fame section, but because of Vince's mess that he created in moving sections (it was done in such a way so that only he knew how to do it) it fucked up the site. My bad, I know that. But it was a mistake. Besides, this site is 10x better than Vince's.

Finally, what happened. I was at University, with no wireless at all. I could only connect to it like once a week for a short period of time, so I wanted to contribute as much as I could in that time. Like I have said previously, I very rarely go into a 'fit of rage' but for once, I did. I felt betrayed! But that doesn't justify what I did, I know that. I fucked up and I made a mistake. One of the worst things I did was pushing you guys away. I loved being here, not being able to contribute was killing me and I did something stupid like that. For someone that's been here as long as you have, I understand why you hate me so much, I genuinely do.

But Alveuss, I'm not asking for forgiveness. That will come with time. I'm here to mend friendships that I so stupidly made. At the end of the day, we're all human and we all make mistakes. I just made a shitty one over the internet. All i'm asking for is to come back as a regular (albeit, part time) member of the Fed.

I'm sorry Alveuss.

Well, this pains me slightly because I had to help piece this place together once you dropped the Harry Wood bomb on us. It was some decent labor and for that I blame you from taking away from my day of sleeping in.

When I read this I was thinking "hell no" the entire time because I didn't want to have to go through all of that again. But then I realized I have to look at this two ways.

1) Personally. Personally what you did was a big stab in the back and was wrong, but you already know that. We didn't want to kick you out, we just felt our staff was too big, and you being in Univeristy and all (no problem in that), you were the one to go because of your understandable inactivity. But then the H bomb was dropped and yadda yadda. Personally, it's a tough thing but if you wanna work on mending friendships then there's that.

2) Business. You wont be getting power, so we don't have to worry about an explosion. In that case you are just another number. You add to our roster of greatness and help fuel our fire. Bottom line.

So yeah, as long as no power is involved (and you obviously understand why), I wouldn't mind more numbers in this fed at all.

I love you Punisher.

Here's how I view it: This is like a 2nd home for me. I spend 90% of my time always on the site (the other is sleeping). Its been that way since I joined. I love this place and I have loved it. What happened was terrible, stupid, and devastating, personally. However, it wasn't long before we finally had everything back to the way it was and it was almost like it never happened, but we still remember. 

Now while this is a second home for many, at the end of the day its an internet fed for a wrestling game. Our goal is to provide a fair-playing community to keep others out of the random shit storm you'll find online. There shouldn't be any bias in it. People wanted to give Ewantu another chance despite the fact he was previously banned from practically ever other fed. The only difference between Ewantu and Punisher is that this 'troll' happened to us. But, I'm not one to bring my personal feelings into it, or I try at least not to. At the end of the day I want everyone happy and enjoying the community. If LifeOnDisplay came in and posted a contract, I'd let him sign right up despite the fact that if not for Vince making a last minute save, this wouldn't have ever existed. I'd let all the 'fed rejects' sign up as well. Anyone who seems like they can contribute to the community is more than welcome here. Without bias. And if they fail, send them packing. They can try again at a later date.

And yes, what Punisher did was terrible, stupid, and devastating, but now that we are back on track, what would it matter if he was here as a member and not part of the staff?

Alright, so it's blatantly obvious that with just about everyone else welcoming you back with open arms that my one opinion doesn't mean shit. So instead of getting pissed and complaining more than I already have, I'll say this.

If this many people would like to have you back and think it's for the best that you do come back then I'll shut up and step aside. Not for you, for them. Just like Twysted does, I love this place and it's at its best when the members are happy. If you being given another chance is what makes them happy then so be it, I'm sure I'll come to be happy eventually as well. This place is like Twysted said a second home for many and it certainly is for me, and that's a huge reason as to why I'm so against you being allowed back. I don't care much what what you did to the site, it was fixed almost immediately. What I do hate you for is the aftermath you caused. Multiple people myself included were on the brink of leaving for good for reasons I'm not getting into. To me, the blame for that falls on nobody but you.

I need to say this just to get it out there. Yes what I'm saying now is I'll allow you back with no more complaining, must be Christmas spirit or some shit, but that in no way means I want you here. I don't consider you a friend and it will probably be a long time before I ever do again.

So with that said, welcome back Punisher. Try not to blow it this time.

You're wrong though Alveuss, your vote does matter. This a vote for the people really. A lot of us were affected and it isn't just for the admins/mods to decide on. 

However, your vote is pretty much the only one saying 'No' and the only who keeps looking at it from a personal perspective. Not saying its wrong, it just seems out there.

However, I might not have much room to talk because I'm generally a light-hearted person and from my personal perspective, I still remember all the good, fun times I've had with him and I personally wouldn't mind having him back here, as long as well keep from the important stuff.